The last chapter in the Helen Palmer book study. Type 9 discussion with fellow Vermonter Erica DeLorenzo. One of my favorite quotes of hers, “I love wanting what other people want.” I also liked talking about how anger “leaks” out of a 9. Hope you enjoy. Let me know what you think. End music is a fair use snippet of Garth Brooks “The Dance” because 9s show us how to do it.
EPISODE 46 - Helen Palmer Type 8 (with Bernadette Noll)
Bernadette Noll is the author of Slow Family Living, the poem I Want to Age Like Sea Glass, and founder of Reduce, Reuse, Remake, an organization which finds ways to build community and cut back on consumption. She and I discuss the type 8 in Helen Palmer’s book The Enneagram, Understanding Yourself and Others in Your Life
Purchase Bernadette’s book for parents of young children in your life here:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/311596/slow-family-living-by-bernadette-noll/
I reference the book I am reading: The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible by Charles Eisenstein
For information on why I don’t want to use the word “inner city,” these articles are helpful:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/inner-city-violence-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/382154/
https://www.urban.org/2016-analysis/problem-talking-about-inner-cities
End music is “Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty
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EPISODE 45 - Helen Palmer Type 7 (with my mom!)
I revisit Helen Palmer’s Chapter on Type 7 with my mom. My favorite comment “You can’t help your feelings, I can’t help my speed!”
end music is “My Cosmos is Mine” by Depeche Mode
EPISODE 44 - Helen Palmer Type 7 with Rachel Lomas
Rachel Lomas — friend, political activist, great cook - an epicure for sure - joins me today in a conversation about Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 7
end music is Walking on a Dream by Empire of the Sun
EPISODE 43 - Helen Palmer Type 6
My friend Kathie Sever —the founder of the merry band of chainstitching geniuses at Ft Lonesome joins me again to discuss Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 6. My take away is that 6s are roving confirmation bias seekers/busters. Finding all the facts to support their ideas or finding all the facts that don’t. Also, Kathie’s idea of a knight in shining armor might have to be a series for each number. I love it.
When I said Russ Hudson had a word for 4s, I meant Claudio Naranjo used the word “vindictive”
When Kathie refers to IFS therapy, she is talking about Internal Family Systems therapy
The Jungian podcast we love is called The Salome Institute, led by Satya Doyle Byock (author of “Quarterlife”— an excellent gift for anyone in their 20s).
Tim Urban is the author Kathie refers to — he wrote “What’s our Problem” and Kathie recommends him on Lex Fridman podcast #360
The documentary on the NXIVM cult is called “Seduced”
The parable of the farmer is from the children’s book “Zen Shorts” by Jon Muth
end music is Doubt by Twenty One Pilots
EPISODE 42 - Helen Palmer Type 5 (with Nathaniel)
I recorded Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 5 with my 5 husband Nathaniel
end music is Space Cowboy by Kacey Musgraves
EPISODE 41 - Helen Palmer Type 5
Lillian Sims joins me in discussing Helen Palmer’s chapter on the type 5
out music is “Where is my Mind” sung by Tkay Maidza
EPISODE 40 - Helen Palmer Type 4
My friend and jewelry designer Nak Armstrong joins me in nearly 2 hours of type 4 conversation, where I am pretty sure we successfully debunk any notions of sexiness in our type, thanks to the excellent ideas of Helen Palmer.
out music is patron saint of 4, Chopin’s Piano Concerto no. 2 in F Minor (of course!!!), Larghetto. This piece is one of my favorites and, to me, encompasses all the mercurial moodiness, beauty, longing and rage of type 4. Orchestra della Toscana, conductor, Daniele Rustioni
EPISODE 39 - Helen Palmer Type 3 with my daughter Alabel
I felt compelled to take the opportunity to go through Helen Palmer’s chapter about 3s with my daughter Alabel. She modeled “polyphasic activity” by clipping her nails while podcasting with me!!! You will hear it. There are a few things I wish I had followed up on, but I can circle back.
end music is My Future by Billie Eilish
photo by Sarah Bork
EPISODE 38 - Helen Palmer Type 3
My friend Griff Martin joins me to talk about Helen Palmer’s chapter on Type 3
end song is “Flames” by David Guetta and Sia
EPISODE 37 - Helen Palmer Type 2
mentor and master Enneagram teacher Suzanne Stabile joins me in discussing Helen Palmer’s chapter on Type 2
podcast cover photo by Inti St Clair
end music is “Anyone Who Loves Me” by Charlotte Cardin
EPISODE 36 - Helen Palmer Type 1
Friend and type 1 Eliza Hook joins me in reading and discussing the chapter “Point 1: The Perfectionist” in Helen Palmer’s book “The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others in Your Life”
end music is “Ful Stop” by Radiohead
EPISODE 35 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 9
Type 9 —Going with the Stream, the passion for comfort, psychological pachydermism
End music is “Can’t Believe The Way We Flow” by James Blake
EPISODE 34 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 8
TYPE 8 - Coming on Strong. Spicy! “The over-development of action in the service of struggling in a dangerous world….the impoverishment of tenderness…” End music is “The Distance” by Cake
EPISODE 33 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 7
Type 7 — Opportunistic Idealism. The rebellious diplomat. The Variety glutton. End music is Peggy Lee singing “Is That All There Is”
EPISODE 32 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 6
Type 6 —The Persecuted Persecutor
or we prefer the Problem Solver / Problem Seeker
End music is Courage to Change by Sia
EPISODE 31 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 5
Type 5 — Seeking Wholeness Through Isolation.
End Music is Solitary Daughter by Bedouine
EPISODE 30 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 4
Type 4 — Seeking Happiness Through Pain
Intro music is “Constant Craving” by K.D. Lang and out music is “Total Eclipse of the Heart” by Bonnie Tyler
EPISODE 29 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 3
We discuss Type 3 and Chapter 3 of Claudio Naranjo’s book Ennea-Type Structures. Naranjo titles this chapter “Success through Appearances” We liked his use of the word “simulator.” And we liked his very succinct phrase “substitution of appearance for self.”
Out music is “Adaptive Behavior” by by Jay Denham
I used the word “guru” facetiously in referring to Sam Harris and my great pleasure in using his app “Waking Up.” I love that man.
EPISODE 28 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 2
Ennea-Type 2 Egocentric Generosity
End music is “Save Myself” by Ed Sheeran